Comments on: Ferrari - What a load of "Prancing Horse Poo" http://badgergp.com/2010/07/ferrari-what-a-load-of-prancing-horse-poo/ Formula 1 isn't boring... Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:24:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dave H http://badgergp.com/2010/07/ferrari-what-a-load-of-prancing-horse-poo/#comment-1149 Dave H Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:21:27 +0000 http://www.f1badger.com/?p=19628#comment-1149 Pictures tell better stories. While we all knew Kovalainen moved out of the way, he put himself in a position where he could argue that he misjudged his entry speed and accidently ran wide, which is how Lewis got past him. Yes that's nonsense, but it wasn't done in a way that could be considered detrimental to the competition. http://mut.li/to (3:08 is the pass) Also it's worth noting that if that pass hadn't occurred then it would have negatively affected the competition of the race and we wouldn't have seen those great overtakes that Lewis performed on Massa and Piquet to regain the lead. PS. I am a McLaren and Kovalainen fan so probably have a slightly skewed viewpoint, but am trying to remain neutral. I just think the situations are different because of the way that the orders were deployed by the drivers. Pictures tell better stories. While we all knew Kovalainen moved out of the way, he put himself in a position where he could argue that he misjudged his entry speed and accidently ran wide, which is how Lewis got past him.
Yes that's nonsense, but it wasn't done in a way that could be considered detrimental to the competition.
http://mut.li/to (3:08 is the pass)
Also it's worth noting that if that pass hadn't occurred then it would have negatively affected the competition of the race and we wouldn't have seen those great overtakes that Lewis performed on Massa and Piquet to regain the lead.

PS. I am a McLaren and Kovalainen fan so probably have a slightly skewed viewpoint, but am trying to remain neutral. I just think the situations are different because of the way that the orders were deployed by the drivers.

]]> By: Willie http://badgergp.com/2010/07/ferrari-what-a-load-of-prancing-horse-poo/#comment-1148 Willie Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:11:54 +0000 http://www.f1badger.com/?p=19628#comment-1148 If you break the rule, you are guilty. Now, Ferrari broke the rule, and is therefore guilty. This is fine. Others broke the rule too, albeit less blatantly, but they are not guilty. Then a certain rule applies for some cases, and another for other cases. This a double standard which is inconsistent, and therefore untenable. A punishment for Ferrari would be OK. But then the same standard should be also (retrospectively as well) applied to other teams. As a side note, why do you think Mr. Whitmarsh didn't publicly comment about this matter? "Cast the first stone" comes to my mind ;-) . If you break the rule, you are guilty.

Now, Ferrari broke the rule, and is therefore guilty. This is fine.
Others broke the rule too, albeit less blatantly, but they are not
guilty.

Then a certain rule applies for some cases, and another for other
cases. This a double standard which is inconsistent, and therefore
untenable.

A punishment for Ferrari would be OK. But then the same standard
should be also (retrospectively as well) applied to other teams.

As a side note, why do you think Mr. Whitmarsh didn't publicly comment
about this matter? "Cast the first stone" comes to my mind ;-) .

]]> By: Graham Mogford http://badgergp.com/2010/07/ferrari-what-a-load-of-prancing-horse-poo/#comment-1147 Graham Mogford Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:13:13 +0000 http://www.f1badger.com/?p=19628#comment-1147 If it is not blatant it is just harder to prove. If it is proven then it should be punished. When it's as bleeding obvious as this then there is no question. Rules is rules, you either enforce them or you scrap them - to have them in place and have them flouted so blatantly just makes the FIA look stupid. If it is not blatant it is just harder to prove. If it is proven then it should be punished. When it's as bleeding obvious as this then there is no question.

Rules is rules, you either enforce them or you scrap them - to have them in place and have them flouted so blatantly just makes the FIA look stupid.

]]> By: Willie http://badgergp.com/2010/07/ferrari-what-a-load-of-prancing-horse-poo/#comment-1146 Willie Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:32:09 +0000 http://www.f1badger.com/?p=19628#comment-1146 So if it is not blatant (cf. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jul/21/formulaone.motorsports) then it's alright to break the rules, eh? So if it is not blatant
(cf. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jul/21/formulaone.motorsports)
then it's alright to break the rules, eh?

]]> By: Adam Milleneuve http://badgergp.com/2010/07/ferrari-what-a-load-of-prancing-horse-poo/#comment-1145 Adam Milleneuve Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:41:52 +0000 http://www.f1badger.com/?p=19628#comment-1145 here here Graham! here here Graham!

]]> By: Graham Mogford http://badgergp.com/2010/07/ferrari-what-a-load-of-prancing-horse-poo/#comment-1144 Graham Mogford Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:03:50 +0000 http://www.f1badger.com/?p=19628#comment-1144 The tifosi reaction seems to be like that of a petulant 13 year old who's been caught doing something in class, 'Everyone else is doing it.' Blatant infringement of the rules, massive contempt for the intelligence of the fans and a slap in the face to one of their drivers on a rather significant anniversary. It has to be punished, and I'd have a lot more respect for the Ferrari fans if they accepted that instead of whining. The tifosi reaction seems to be like that of a petulant 13 year old who's been caught doing something in class, 'Everyone else is doing it.'

Blatant infringement of the rules, massive contempt for the intelligence of the fans and a slap in the face to one of their drivers on a rather significant anniversary. It has to be punished, and I'd have a lot more respect for the Ferrari fans if they accepted that instead of whining.

]]> By: Franco http://badgergp.com/2010/07/ferrari-what-a-load-of-prancing-horse-poo/#comment-1143 Franco Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:27:02 +0000 http://www.f1badger.com/?p=19628#comment-1143 The photo shows what Ferrari made of the field behind them! Made everyone look like POOOOOOOO!!! Com'on Forza Ferrari! 1-2!!! The photo shows what Ferrari made of the field behind them! Made everyone look like POOOOOOOO!!! Com'on Forza Ferrari! 1-2!!!

]]> By: Spud http://badgergp.com/2010/07/ferrari-what-a-load-of-prancing-horse-poo/#comment-1142 Spud Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:08:06 +0000 http://www.f1badger.com/?p=19628#comment-1142 <blockquote>There are still plenty of races to go in an incredibly unpredictable season</blockquote> Exactly why Ferrari didn't need to do what they did. Maybe I'd understand if it was the last couple of races, but there are eight races to go and Ferrari have a better car tahn they did at the start of the year. If Fernando is as good a driver as he claims to be then he should be able to pass his teammate properly. Here is a link to an interview he did before the seaason started: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/feb/23/fernando-alonso-interview-ferrari-formula-one The last paragraph reads as follows: <blockquote>Even some British bookmakers have made him favourite for the title, ahead of the last two world champions in Hamilton and Button. Would it be wise to put a bet on him? Alonso laughs and stretches out his hand. "Put the money on me now…"</blockquote> If he wins the title like this, could he really be happy with himself?

There are still plenty of races to go in an incredibly unpredictable season

Exactly why Ferrari didn't need to do what they did. Maybe I'd understand if it was the last couple of races, but there are eight races to go and Ferrari have a better car tahn they did at the start of the year.

If Fernando is as good a driver as he claims to be then he should be able to pass his teammate properly.

Here is a link to an interview he did before the seaason started: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/feb/23/fernando-alonso-interview-ferrari-formula-one

The last paragraph reads as follows:

Even some British bookmakers have made him favourite for the title, ahead of the last two world champions in Hamilton and Button. Would it be wise to put a bet on him? Alonso laughs and stretches out his hand. "Put the money on me now…"

If he wins the title like this, could he really be happy with himself?

]]> By: Spud http://badgergp.com/2010/07/ferrari-what-a-load-of-prancing-horse-poo/#comment-1141 Spud Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:51:15 +0000 http://www.f1badger.com/?p=19628#comment-1141 Lewis was allowed to pass Heikki. That shouldn't have been allowed either. Although it has to be said, Lewis was by far the better driver that year and was leading the World Championship. Heikki was not up to speed that year and probably cost Mclaren the constructers title that year since the two ferrari drivers were so closely matched eventually finishing second and third. Lewis was allowed to pass Heikki.

That shouldn't have been allowed either.

Although it has to be said, Lewis was by far the better driver that year and was leading the World Championship.

Heikki was not up to speed that year and probably cost Mclaren the constructers title that year since the two ferrari drivers were so closely matched eventually finishing second and third.

]]> By: Sam http://badgergp.com/2010/07/ferrari-what-a-load-of-prancing-horse-poo/#comment-1140 Sam Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:57:30 +0000 http://www.f1badger.com/?p=19628#comment-1140 Each and every person who had money on Massa should write and ask Ferrari for the money they placed on the bet back. Each and every person who had money on Massa should write and ask Ferrari for the money they placed on the bet back.

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