
Out of Order? The Team Orders debate
- Published on Jul 27th, 2010 by Tess TarossaIt was the story of the German grand prix: the blatantly obvious team order radioed to Felipe Massa telling him to give the lead to team-mate Fernando Alonso. This led to a $100,000 fine, the maximum penalty the stewards could give, and a reference to the World Motor Sport Council (WMSC), a division of the FIA.
Many of you have been quite rightly angry about the incident. Some disagree with the order being given at all, given that it was exactly a year since Massa's life-threatening accident and was quite frankly a lot better than Alonso for the majority of the grand prix.
Some of you object to the crass way in which it was handled, with engineer Rob Smedley left to do the dirty work and making it very clear he wasn't happy about doing it. And possibly even more of you got properly narked when the Ferrari team proceeded to attempt the worst cover-up in the history of F1. We certainly learnt one thing about Ferrari last weekend: they can't lie for toffee.
Of course, there are some big Ferrari fans out there, and it has been interesting to gauge their reactions to the incident. "The team comes first" has been the party line from Ferrari, but they would have had the full 43 points whether Massa or Alonso stood on the top step. The switch only bolsters Alonso's quest for the drivers' championship.
For Massa fans it was a dark weekend. What could, and should, have been a triumphant return to form a year to the day from the crash ended with Felipe's reputation in some confusion. Was it really "magnanimous" of him to give Alonso the lead, as Rob Smedley told him over the radio, or does it expose him to ridicule for not having the guts to go for a world championship himself? We're barely past the half-way mark of the season, and already Massa has ruled himself out. Perhaps Massa should take a leaf out of Mark Webber's book and go for the win anyway and suffer the wrath of the team later? If he wants to call himself World Champion one day he will have to be that ruthless.
The Team Orders debate: were Ferrari out of order?
As many of you have pointed out, team orders have always happened in Formula 1, despite being 'banned' fully in 2002. Here's a selection of reader comments on the debate:
"If Fernando is as good a driver as he claims to be then he should be able to pass his teammate properly" - Spud
"There is still so much more to play for in this season’s championship, and there is no need for this to happen with 200 points still available in the season" - Richard Sobey
"Despite what has happened “in the past” the rules are quite clear that ‘team orders’ should play no part in the final position of the participants whilst the race is conducted" - Badvok
"The worst ‘crime’ here though is the inept way Ferrari executed the team orders" - Carlostastic Racing
Let's get things back in order?
So should regulation 39.1 be repealed if it is effectively worthless? The WMSC are yet to rule on this occasion, but with former Ferrari-boss Jean Todt at the helm of the FIA it seems extremely unlikely that Ferrari will get anything more than a slap on the wrist. If indeed no action is taken is it even worth having the rule there at all if it does not serve purpose?
Perhaps not, but this incident has got everyone talking, and sometimes shouting, about the future of the 'Team Orders' rule. If team orders are so prevalent, then should it be repealed? Or should Ferrari just have some lessons in PR and the art of concealment? In the words of Lotus chief technical officer Mike Gascoyne, "the bottom line is if you are going to do it then do so far more cleverly than they did."
And here's one more thought: had the race been, well, a bit racier would we have even cared so much about this incident? Perhaps it all got blown way out of proportion simply because the 2010 German grand prix was such a yawn-fest?
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On the subject of team orders but not Ferrari, I'm sad that Lotus hasn't, as yet, been able to find the form to get at least one driver into Q2. The team's boss had this to say: "I'm sad [glad?] to say we aren't in any kind of position to have to think about giving team orders." Yeh, that quote isn't 100% right, but it opens your eyes to the understanding that probably every team is doing it - as subtly as possible nonetheless - and this one incident is being made a scapegoat because of how blatantly it was executed.
Lewis Hamilton put it very well in an interview I saw recently.
He said that by himself and Jenson being allowed to race each other and push each other on track, that naturally moves the team forward. He must have some clue what he's talking about what with them being world champions and since he and Jenson sit 1st and 2nd respectively in the chamionship.
Both of them are being given a fair crack of the whip.
From what I saw on Sunday was Massa doing all the hard work and then Alonso being allowed to pass.
I do hope to God that we are not going back to the "Schumacher" days, Where races were really quite predictable.
Team orders will never be completely got rid of so really they should only come into effect if the driver in front CANNOT MATHEMATICALLY WIN THE TITLE. Then it would make sense to do the swap. But they would still have to make it not so obvious, and then have to lie about it.
Anyway that's my two pence worth.
IMHO, the last paragraph says it all, blown out of all proportion..
I blame the stewards, or the power they do or not have.
What are the set penalties for breaching the rule? Why did they choose to give a fine?
The rule is fine as it is - it's the policing that's the issue. Leave it to the stewards to impose whatever penalty they want, whether it's adding time to one driver, or disqualification.
As most others have said at some point, team orders have always been around even beyond 2002 when they were banned, it's just the teams have got their heads around employing them more sneakily.
There's a good article on James Allen's site which goes into more detail and has gained a massive amount of responses: http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/07/what-the-fia-should-do-about-team-orders-in-formula-1/
Though i immediately like James' suggestion of "No team orders until the final third of the Championship", this is impossible to police unless a steward has constant access to team briefings and pre-race discussions for the first two thirds of the season.
It's quite possible that if McLaren radio Jenson and say "Ok Jenson, Mix 4, Setting 8 and preserve the tyres for attack later" actually meant "Don't overtake Lewis". The only people who will ever know that are the drivers, the engineers and the team bosses.
The rule is impossible to police without fracturing the integrity of all the teams, or by banning pit to car radio's. This won't happen because the radio's add so much to the TV broadcasts and add much-needed personality to the drivers.
The only way around it is to scrap the rule entirely and get the teams to agree to have their cars swap positions in a way that looks competitive, or via phantom car problems.
And make the fine 20 times bigger for carrying out orders in the way that Ferrari did on Sunday.
Re: Final sentence: Or even better; dock championship points