Felipe is livid with Lewis - Should he be?

Penalty was right as far as I'm concerned. Lewis made an error in judgement by turning in too early and impeded a competitor's progress.
(Video with the interviews is now available on http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/15053045.stm for UK readers)

Simple racing incident, that's all. I doubt if anyone can really see front wing ends from where they sit in an F1 car...

Hamilton made a mistake but not a huge one. Massa? He has half the points of Hamilton and needs to concentrate on upping his own performance. Far too easy to take your own frustrations out on someone else. I'm only a step away from saying Massa has had his day.. Actually i'm not. He has. Time to give up the 'Prancing Horse' son!

I think Felipe was more angry about what happened on the Saturday - and he had every right to be. There were 4 cars out together for their warm up lap trying to create some space for a flier. All Lewis had to do was back off a bit during the lap and they would all have had enough space. Came to the conclusion quite a while ago that Lewis just isn't that bright.

Penalty deserved then you think Andy?

Had similar ideas myself - who should they get in to replace him though? Perez?

I dont think it should have been a penalty, there are regular wings broken in F1 and 90% of them are not even investigated. Massa is angry because even after the penalty, Hamilton still beat him in the race.

Massa has never been the same since taking a spring to the head! He is driving scared and that is more dangerous than driving aggressive!

Am a Hamilton fan but someone needs to tell him the race is 2hrs long!

It's no great secret that I think in a 61 lap race, Lewis sees it at 61 1 lap races. haha.
He's a supreme talent though and it did him no harm in either GP2 or winning the F1 title.

I think its kinda borderline if Hamilton should of got the penalty or not. It was a racing incident, a tiny error he did today in an otherwise good AND fair race(the start was unavoidable).

I think if Massa did not get a puncture it would of been left alone and no penalty, but he did, his race was impeded and you have to say fair game on the penalty. But! Massa's reaction after the race defiantly should be looked at! that was unsporting, rude, aggressive and just completely unnecessary.

On the other comments about Massa's driving, i think he has defiantly lost it, he's lost something and is nowhere near what he was capable of. Could be the accident, Alonso or the team, which ever it is, he should be replaced in Ferrari.

I for one am sick of inconsistent stewards impacting the racing. Whatever happened to racing incidents? If there is evidence of intent then there should be action but what we are seeing at the moment is ridiculous! Schumacher turn in on Hill for the word title? I want to see racing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKjaBdCaJ5k

There's the link for Massa disrupting Hamilton's interview.

Racing incident as far as I am concerned, his front tyres locked up on braking. Schumacher's incident was entirely Michael's fault. Massa should be penalised for his beaviour off track as it's not behaviour for the kids in karting to see as acceptable.

i think that it was just another racing incident, just as the one between rosberg and perez some laps later that finished with perez having to cut the corner lift the gas and schumi crashing into him. if the stewards didnt had rosberg a penalty they shouldnt have given hamilton one either, but again i guess it all comes down to a consistent insident causing driving style and the stewards just tired of it..... as for the racing i enjoy very much the fun that hamilton gives every race, as he never backs down......................... for the other question, i think that massa should have retired about 2 years ago, but i dont think that perez should be his replacement, or at least not yet, they should look at hulkenberg or maybe even timo glock, lets not forget that given a fast car timo can put up some good lap times, but when it comes down to it, i think anyone would be a better driver for ferrari that massa....

Seeing it live, I was convinced that Lewis turned in too early to cause the puncture / wing damage. On the replays, seeing Hamilton's front tyre lock up, I knew it was unavoidable that he wasn't going to stop in time.

So, racing incident, but with the penalty considered, I don't think Massa can really be complaining. He's [Massa] just too slow.

Off-topic - I was remarking to my family that Massa would never take a drive in my team. Also that Alonso and Vettel in a RB would be quite unstoppable.

I guess Lewis is now a case for a psychiatrist. Too many mistakes. That's not the same World Champion Lewis we use to see a couple of years ago. Exactly the same issues were experienced when Alonso was his team mate.

yes, hamilton made a mistake and payed for it, but what massa did in the interviews after (sarcatic remarks) was totaly unfair and honestly quite pathetic, if felipe has a strong view of something, he needs to go and talk to lewis personnaly, not interupt and barge into a tv stations interview,. i think massa has shown himself up today and he has lost a lot of respect from me.

I'd say he'll be left in place for 2012 and they'll put Perez in for '13. The fact they've given Sergio a run in the old car, and the glowing things Ferrari said about him afterwards, suggest as much. Perez just needs to deliver next year.

Definitely mistake from Lewis. Absolutely avoidable collision.
It's not like Massa cut in front of him or Lewis slipped into him.

He turned into Massa whe he had a chance not to. And this spoiled Massa's race. He should have been punished.
For me it's not even a question.

If you want a reference for such accident - look at Schumacher/Kobayashi collision in Silverstone 2011.
I think it was in Brooklands. KOB missed the braking point, went wide. MSC went inside, slided and hit KOB's rear.
Basically from purely technical point of view Michael couldn't avoid it. But it's only technically. If he wouldn't overestimated his ability, he wouldn't accelerate, he wouldn't slide and wouln't hit KOB.
He was penalized. He even said it was his mistake.

Load of rubbish.
I would see it as a perfectly fair penalty, except for the fact that Kobayashi took Hamilton out a few weeks ago, and the incident wasn't even investigated!
IMO that was 50:50 to both drivers, but the stewards could have at least have looked into it.

Massa sadly is on the decline and quite possibly in a degree of denial. These outbursts don't do him any favours either.

Looks like I agree with most of the comments here but like to post my view.
To me a racing incident, we've seen lots of the same not investigated this year. The BBC commentary shows some like to see lewis fail, they said lewis was at fault with Massa but made excuses for MSC and MSC was in a straight line. lewis is exciting and a reason to watch F1 and I'm sure from today must have passed Jenson on passes this season. One mistake on a pass but did so many more perfectly.

When someone say it's an racing accident, it usually means a penalty is not needed.

Too much steward's intervention this year. At one time, all these would simply be racing incidents - and they are. If you spec a wing that big, what do you expect? If you race on tracks where overtaking is tight, What do you expect?
Lewis gets on with it, Massa needs to get over it..... Simples.

It was an accident. Webber did the same thing in practice. I don't see Perez losing his rag with Schumacher. Massa should think about why he was in that position anyway - he's too slow compared with Alonso.

Button will be wearing red in 2013. You heard it here first at BadgerGP!

It was a racing incident. Lewis was at fault, but anyone who has undertaken racing at any level knows these things happen.

Massa is under pressure and hasn't looked on the pace for 2 years now, venting his frustration at a superior driver is not going to help his cause.

There are 3 good reasons why Lewis got a penalty

1) He impeded another driver's race. Had Massa not got a puncture as a result of the collision, Lewis would probably not have been penalised

2) He nearly hit the same driver the previous day. Lewis's actions on Saturday were completely unneeded. He should have backed off in the tunnel and gave himself some space rather than trying to force his way past Massa in slow moving traffic

3) Lewis has been in front of the stewards too often this season. Until he shows he's learnt from all the penalties given to him, the FIA will continue to punish him. This is not to say the FIA are picking on him, it's saying Lewis needs to learn from his actions and understand there will be consequences if he continues to anger his competitors

Thanks to Toby for being the one to live in the past and bring it back to Schumacher who had NO PART in this incident. It was NOT OK when Schumacher did it either, and remember he got chucked out of a Championship for FAR LESS than things Lewis has been doing. It's all too easily forgotten that Lewis has gotten away with things as many times as he's been to the Stewards...

@Tone... far less??? Schumacher tried to eliminate the only competitor for the title in the last race of the season to ensure he'd win it. I'd hardly call that comparable to Lewis trying to pass a slow Felipe Massa.

"3) Lewis has been in front of the stewards too often this season. Until he shows he's learnt from all the penalties given to him, the FIA will continue to punish him. This is not to say the FIA are picking on him, it's saying Lewis needs to learn from his actions and understand there will be consequences if he continues to anger his competitors"

It was an accident though. You could have a rant at Webber for what happened in Monza. The pair of them are not purposely crashing into other people. In fact Webber's overtakes in Spa and against Alonso again in Singapore *could* have gone dramatically wrong. And if they had had done, people would be whinging about Webber.

Don't forget that Hamilton made some damn fine overtakes on Sunday. So one of them went slightly wrong - so what?

@Alexis. Bravo, couldn't have said iot better myself. It happens in racing, especially with aggressive drivers. Massa (and his fanboys/girls) need to understand that.

No, that was Lewis' mistake, he turned into Kob who had overtaken him. A race accident, mind me, neither of the drivers had any malice. I believe Lewis admitted the mistake later, too..

I think it was a racing incident - Lewis would have never intentionally done it. I can totally see why the punishment was given, because at the end of the day, Lewis made the move that caused the incident, but then you also have to take into consideration that Lewis was faster and was also, at the time, still in the running for the championship, regardless of how unlikely he would have been to still be in the running post Singapore.
The way Felipe acted? I'm disgusted in him. Totally uncalled for, even though Lewis was to blame. I guess it's frustration that he isn't doing better, but he can't use the 'I'm coming back from a bad accident' excuses any more - he has had two years, and he has barely improved. Formula One is a business - he can't keep asking for sympathy and expect it to be dished out because he made the choice and deemed himself able to come back to the sport, so he should have been performing almost from the word go when he made his return. I just don't think his place is in the car any more, and I think he knows that, but taking it out on Hamilton was no way to go about it all.
I don't know what went through his mind when he though that doing that to Lewis would make him seem like the better person? He just came across as arrogant and selfish, and as bad off track as he is on it - people all over the world are going to see that too, and it's not going to give them a very good impression of Formula One. Even Lewis kept his cool after it - it really has put him to shame. Even the kids like Jaime, who you might expect to be a bit bitchy like that, can keep their cool better than him - look at Belgium - the way Jaime reacted to the whole incident with Bruno Senna, which didn't just impede his race, in which he scored his best ever qualifying result, but took him out all together, is the perfect example of how a driver should react on a racing incident that isn't their fault, and I think its a shame that its the 'kids' of the sport that are setting the examples of driver behavior instead of the 'grown ups'. Jaime and Bruno exchanged a few emails, Bruno apologised, Jaime accepted his apology - they didn't air their dirty laundry in public, and that's the way it should be done.
And can I also add, both drivers were impeded by the incident, both drivers had very good cars capable of podiums. From 19th, Lewis managed to get his car up to fifth. Felipe only managed ninth from 18th. Even if Felipes race was impeded, he could have done much better than ninth in that car.
I wouldn't be suprised if Ferrari do a Kimi on him.

Not sure why ferrari would be so keen to get rid of massa - he is the perfect number 2 to Alonso!

I can't comment too extensively on this issue because i'm still livid about the penalty for a racing incident.
That and the stewards have got it in for Lewis because he's an old-style RACING driver willing to take chances and have a go.
Or because he's black. One does wonder.

One can look at Lewis and say "Yes, more race wins and maybe another championship to come". Looking at Felipe one can only possibly say he's there to make up the numbers.

Over the weekend and in the days since Massa has been a Number 2 in every meaning of the phrase. Now he wants to get the drivers together to discuss how Hamilton can be hindered by a collision AND given a penalty yet still finish the race in 5th, While Felipe himself gives up and trundles round in the teen positions until he decides he'd fancy a point or two 5 laps from the finish.

Who cares if Lewis's lifestyle is cliched and stupid, his talent is huge. F1 is not treating Hamilton in the way that it should be.

Lewis reminds me of Ayrton Senna in his youth. You didn't want to get too close to him - if he got close, or you might have a crash.. That's education..